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Don't forget that these girls are just like you and me: humans with plusses and minusses. I wonder how many of us haven't put a show in bed that would make some adult videos look like cartoons in comparison.

Only that there wasn't a camera around. Can't speak for Japanese ex-AV types except that if they had any significant time in the industry, it's doubtful they could marry most types of salarymen.

If they were recognized at any point, that salaryman would probably see his chances of promotion decline due to major embarrassment factor for himself and his company or division.

That's the part of the lifestyle that can be very difficult to kick. Tragic stories abound here in the LA area regarding the porn lifestyle, including AIDs scandals every year.

It's not glamorous in the least for most women who are in that industry for more than a year Im no prude, but I think people should take off the rose tinted glasses.

AV work is hardly easy money for the women - or men - that it employs. The porn industry objectifies women, and men for that matter, and ruins lives.

I watched celebrity rehab, a porn actress called Marie Carey, seemed honestly to have no self esteem at all, was a chronic alcoholic, wanted out of the business, but was left returning to it to try and pay her bills, and thus going back to the drink and the self esteem problems.

From what I have read she is just one in a long line of train wreck ex adult video stars. I would never call them sluts, and its not a question of morality for me, just it is not a physically healthy or mentally and emotionally healthy job for many of the people drawn into it, and once in, getting out is not easy.

I have no opinion on the people who take part, they're people with feelings and opinions. As long as they manage the logistics and don't hurt anyone, imcluding rhemselves, who's to say they're better or worse than you or I?

Most guys I meet are perfectly capable of handling their daily lives. So I presume there's a significant number people who never see the light of day at all, spending their days consuming other people's share while w?

Can't be good for them, can it? Have been a while since I watched those J AV, do they still have the moving pixels?

As long as the girls are not forced into the industry, then it's their expression of free will. Ideas of disrespect and immorality are then brought into other realms Slow down there reverend.

I dont know who this "our" is when you refer to your perceived "system" but please dont lump me in with your drivel.

No I'm not. Just because I wouldn't want to date a woman who had been covered in semen or had 6 penis' in her at the same time, means I'm a prude?

I though it made me normal Thank you! You made my day! And I still stand by what I said. But I'm not giving any hints. Get a great education girls, then when you get a good corporate position you can turn on the charm to the right people.

You can be competent and still deliver the goods. But in the end, people will only do what they are programmed to do. Any talk of Japanese pron stars is bound to get the boys of JT tapping away on their keyboards Those porn stars females is just making for a living.

But they did not cheat like a married woman cheated their own man. Please respect those poor woman in the sex trade. Others will judge you by your words.

That you describe it all as "nasty stuff" absolutely makes you a prude. Just sayin. Ah, Probie. The irony is that I know 2 such girls who married men with exactly the same attitude as you.

One figured it out, but they're still married. Another got married to a guy who knew, had a kid, and divorced a couple years later for unrelated reasons a friendly divorce though.

Another is still trying to hustle off old boyfriends. As far as I can see, their post-career trajectory is not all that different from bar hostesses.

Some see the writing on the wall and make a new life. Others try to hang on to the old life well past their sell-by date.

Most keep it secret from the general public makes it easier at PTA meetings , and some keep it secret from their husbands. Yes but probadly perhaps not all.

Even a decent married woman who cheat will transmit Aids to her loving unaware loving hushband. These ladies need to go abroad when they retire and hope nobody has seen their work, if they want to find a man honestly that is.

Plenty of guys would go for former porn stars, but the sole reason would be that they want to reenact the porn scenes, not be with the actual person, per se.

You're English is great. You don't sound at all like a normal Japanese person who was brought up in Japan in normal society who also knows western countries judging by your post.

Unless you mix in totally strange circles. I say good luck to them. They are providing a service that is hugely popular in Japan, and most of them retire young - some even as young as their teens.

At least the majority of Japanese girl porn actresses don't seem to be injecting their salaries up their arms - some of them - shock horror - actually do enjoy sex a lot.

I for one don't judge them or look down on them at all. This simply doesn't jive with "Japan has a strong moral system" over on the 9 reasons to love Japan thread.

What happens when they retired? Well, if you just said they retired, there should be no implication of coming back because they could risk annuity deductions.

So, I suppose they do it for free because they no longer need to do it for money. Incidentally, this is not, predictably, a uniquely Japanese issue.

Take a look at the formerly " most beautiful woman in porn" Chasey Lain if you want to see something truly heartbreaking. Unfortunately, this article only concentrates on women in AV and says nothing about the men.

What happens to them? Recently the BBC reported about both the men and women in the porn industry. It pointed out that financially the male actors get a far worse deal than the women.

Since pornography is mostly male-oriented the women tend to do better in side jobs that spin off from their roles as so-called porn stars.

These can range from selling products online to prostitution. The men have fewer options. Also the industry is in trouble, according to the report, because of the apparent glut of free porn on the market.

Facts about the matters cited by the BBC that are relevant to Japan would have made this article considerably better.

It is easy to moralize about the actors in AV. It would be far better to inquire how they are treated as workers in an industry in which lifetime employment is far from guaranteed.

Dennis you do realize that you just destroyed your own point by doing exactly what your condemning in the above statement.

Probie Any healthy women will have a history of sexual relationships. Your philosophy may find nothing wrong with that, but your criteria are not a universal defining standard.

There are still women who treasure their virginity and offer it only to the one they will enter into a lasting relationship with.

The fun of the AV star's skills will wear off very quickly and leave you wondering if it wouldn't have been better if the skills had been developed by you and the partner yourselves, instead of uncountable uncouth previous partners.

The only reason I'd chose to marry a former AV model, is because she'd have to have an amazing personality, no STDs, no kids, and a fresh outlook on life in spite of her past.

If anyone remembers Dr. Dre's "You can't make a ho a housewife. Generally speaking. Pornography is western view. Most actresses are Chinese or Korean bar girls.

Undeniably, Japanese women are too shy and pure for this behavior type. Are farting videos pornography? The reason asked is that is where the problem misunderstanding resides.

I laughed my butt off on this. I do know that many porn stars prefer "love sex" over "money sex" though The question is how many can keep up the "love sex" without getting into the "money sex" mode when they just aren't feeling the emotional connection anymore?

They just have to make a decision at some point whether to continue going "under the knife" to hide the effects of aging.

At some point they need to transition to something else I think that this article is weak in posting a concluding remark.

First, it claims that many girls that choose to have a career as an AV earn a lot of money, something similar said in the other article about girls each year entering the AV industry , and that after they leave this career many of them stay in related businesses but it doesn't offer hard figures statistics about that.

So, for the first part, there are the following inferences:. BTW, As a personal opinion, I've seen Rina Nakanishi and she doesn't have that much talent to be an AV actress, so it is very likely that she will end up jobless or forgotten.

I pity this girl Rina Nakanishi. Lured by the convincing of power of this AV industries talent scouts sweet talks about riches.

Rina Nakanishi has made it in show biz as a singer and an idol for young girls and earned good if not big.

You are a fool and have been fooled. The producers and directors of this AV company ypu signed in have earned and will be earning more than you imagine.

You could have stayed as a retired singer of the AKB group and still be known for your singing talent as your career.

Than being known as an ex AKB singer turned porno selling her body.. You know, I respect people for who they are. I do not have to like the industry they are in.

No way I'd give my daughter the thumbs up to let random, strangers romp in them just to get cash or attention. Even if she were an adult.

My opinion, that lifestyle is sad and nasty. How does one feel clean and pure after years of letting their body being a playground?

I suppose they cope and just survive by telling themselves it is okay. Or they turn to alcohol and drugs to feel better. Personally I feel for the sex industry women.

Sex feels great, the money is the best out there but being used over and over again? Therapy is needed to get over that.

Just because there is a demand for it doesn't mean It needs to be supplied to. Men, look at your dear daughters and sisters and ask yourself is it okay that men with lusty intentions even look their way.

You'd break them off in a heartbeat if they even got close to them. Done justify the industry just because a good amount of money could be made.

Self worth vs broken human being. Think about it. Interesting how there was an article on JT a few weeks ago about this and many of the make posters where saying there was nothing wrong with the job, the girls are okay, they do it for fun While a few of us other posters made comments about issues with STDs, drugs, it not being a lasting job And now this article.

Oh shock. Porn stars don't have it easy The average girl isn't going to introduce her future husband to her parents as an ex-porn actor very lightly either.

Even though they aren't Christians with all these moral hangups.. You'll probably find that in the end So, if you fight over the kids, or don't treat her right, or come home late too many times or she's just tired or a million other things that unfortunately for men influence the female libido, you probably won't have every night being like one of her movies.

And then what do you do? Then the shit hits the fan. How irony. But yeah, I think this article is not in depth.

I would like to read a first person experience in this. As much as Nakamura words could be included, his observations only a third person view.

Pornography has existed since ancient times. It serves a purpose. If the girls and guys are protected financially and from sexual disease then I can't see a problem if it is only consenting adults.

I am married to a Japanese woman who threw sex out of the window and it is sad to say that these porn stars are often the closest thing I get to sex.

I am sure many married men find themselves in the same boat. Healthier for my martiage than visiting a brothel. Lighten up. How about this question that's been bothering and would like some answers????

What happens when your daughter or son enters that AV world whatever you wanna call it? How do parents react?

I just happened to read about this porn star Maria Ozawa, and my golly gee, she's young , can even speak a little english and attractive..

I can't seem to fathom why she chose to be a porn star????? What a waste and a shame she must've brought to her family I would disown her if she was my daughter..

I will give her all the advice, and who knows maybe she's sick, and so I will get her treated, mental or physically, whatever her sickness may be related to her libido Marilita Fabie-Fujisawa, just a suggestion, but don't disown a daughter just because she decides to work in the sex industry.

Nothing says you have to support her in it, but when she is old enough you have to understand she is her own human being and a seperate individual who can make her own decisions.

Best advice to give a daughter like that is to let them know you do love them, but not what they do for a living, and that you will not help them when their life choices give them the consequences that arise from their decisions.

Of course do try to help them when they're trying to do something positive with their life, but step back and observe when they choose to do something that is mentally and usally physically harmful to themselves.

Esp for single people who can say all sorts of things about how great they'll be at marriage and parenting. I remember an ex-porn star, Kuriki something-or-other hairy arm pits , many years ago who had a very successful career on the TV variety show circuit.

Claimed to have bedded mroe than 10, men during her porn career. At the end of the day, it's the daughters choice, there's a number of porn stars who entered young and enjoy their job.

Agreed that its the daughters choice, but you forget this article mentions that when they want to LEAVE and find something else to do for a living they find themselves in a rather hard up situation that leads them back to the sex industry Soaplands, bar hostess, etc I don't think someone enjoys their job so much when they want to leave it for something they feel is better for them emotionally.

Your comment shows you're only thinking in the way that most men think when porn is something they want to see. After all the US tv programs that some active and inactive porn stars go on to describe their life on the other side of the camera, every single one of them had a point where they just didn't like what they did, and even had to sedate themelves to cope with the "situations".

Those that stayed only kept going because the pay was good or they felt they couldn't choose something else to do. Stay on topic - this is about what happens to porn stars after they retire, not your personal opinion about pornography.

How can I date one of these ex porn stars. Sounds like a business opportunity. A dating service for guys that want to date, even marry, a former porn girl.

Well technically porn is just "acting" So getting rid of porn would be very difficult. So many great comments. Porn stars will never see retirement as a clear option.

Most if any will occassionally do part-time porn if they retire, but never ever retire fully. Those that have chosen to retire completely often struggle with depression and anxiety and an overall disconnect with society.

They rarely have anything in common with women who lead ordinary lives. Just the wording is demeaning enough!

They are not girls. Models have their clothes on. Interesting question. Why is sex and self respect linked, and is it linked in Japan?

Doing manual labour, such as removals or construction does not usually damage self respect. Holding a plough, a brick, or a traffic warden's baton does not usually damage self respect but holding a sex organ, especially in ones own, can damage self respect enormously.

Why is this? Do Japanese people feel the same way? Going to school and getting an education with a diploma does Not guarantee a successful career especially in the current economic conditions today in the world, though it may help.

I wouldn't mind marrying a former AV actress. Too not consider marrying one because of their past shows one's ignorance.

It was her life and her choice. If you want to truly love someone, then you'll have to accept them and their past as it's all or nothing, just like how she will accept you and your past!

Good luck to all the women who enters the AV world and hopefully they'll do well after they retire from it. Also, good luck to the lucky guys who marries them.

They'll need to be open-minded and patient with them. Im suprised no problem to participate.. They are also human beings like us, but in our culture they may have ostracized.

But time went on, perhaps eventually they will be accepted in society. We can not judge them for granted.

We have to look at them properly people like us. That is the reason I draw and paint some of these women, to show them and others their own beauty outside the adult video industry in Japan.

This comment section is hilarious, so let me get this straight.. Virgins are a "stigma" and yet being a prostitute just having a lot of sex is also a "stigma"?

Have sex or not? There's nothing wrong with being a Virgin and there's nothing wrong with having sex for money either! So I'd be like her actual first lover for real..

I know that this is going to seem crass and vulgar but since they don't have the same moral hangups as the US or europe it is literally apples and oranges.

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